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CRM Guru, Family Filmmaker, and Host of the Business-First Creatives podcast. I help creative service providers grow and streamline their businesses using Dubsado, Honeybook, and Airtable.
One of the more unique and unconventional approaches to marketing is leveraging other audiences. We see it in collaborations online, but today’s guest has a more unheard of approach that I knew we had to share on the podcast. Amy Dangerfield took the idea of leveraging someone else’s audience to a whole new level when she began to convert her public program attendees into paying clients. Listen in as Amy shares how she approached her local library about teaching a photography workshop, then leveraged the opportunity to market her business, build her email list, and grow her business.
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Guest Bio
Amy Dangerfield is a documentary photographer who believes that our lives might not be pretty all the time but they surely are the most beautiful. Amy is passionate about preserving individual and family histories in the most honest way hoping that collaboratively, we can have a more accurate societal history recorded. As an educator and speaker, Amy has also been guiding others to lean in to each artist’s identity and passion to become an authentic storyteller.
Amy’s work has been frequently awarded and published internationally.
Born and raised in Wuhan China, Amy moved to the US to complete her Master’s Degree in Electrical Engineering and met her husband at school. Amy currently resides in Phoenix, Arizona with her husband, 4 little ones, and a tortoise that is supposed to be able to grow to over 100 lbs. Amy is also a homeschool mom trying to raise bilingual kids.
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Here are the highlights…
[1:38] Get to Know Amy
[4:43] Why Public Programs Work for Small Businesses
[7:47] Gathering Leads from Public Programs
[9:21] How Many People Show Up to Public Programs
[11:30] Converting Public Program Attendees into Paid Customers
[15:30] Tracking ROI
[18:52] Integrating the Homeschool Community
[21:52] Balancing Work and Life
[26:05] Families Love Mundane Moments in Photography
[27:15] Amy’s Introduction to Dubsado
[29:20] The Value of a CRM
[31:25] Advice from Amy
Connect with Amy
Website: amydangerfield.com
IG: @amydangerfieldphotography
Review the Transcript:
Colie: Hello. Hello. And welcome back to the business first creatives podcast. I am here today to talk to fellow documentary family photographer, Amy Dangerfield. And guys, we are going to get in it today. And she has the most unique way of marketing her business that I have perhaps heard.
And I am excited to get her to share it with you. Good morning, Amy. Welcome to the podcast.
Amy Dangerfield: Good morning. Thank you for having me.
Colie: Well, I’m so excited to have you. I mean, just so that the listening audience knows, guys, I sent out an email to my CRM blueprint students and said, Hey, I would like to feature a few of you on my podcast, but I’m not going to feature you as a student. Like, you know, do you have a really awesome marketing thing that you do?
Or do you have a really big win that you celebrated in your business? And so when Amy wrote me back about hers, I was like, Oh my gosh, how quickly can we get you on the podcast?
Amy Dangerfield: Yeah, I’m excited because I do think it’s unique, but that probably is why, like, I think, like, nobody thinks of it. So it works really well.
Colie: Well, let’s jump into it. Cause I feel like we’re, you know, vague booking as the phrase says. We’re, we’re talking about it, but we haven’t actually told them what it is. So Amy, why don’t you tell me about what you are doing that is really boosting marketing inside of your family photography business?
Amy Dangerfield: So what I’m doing is actually, I call it, providing community service as a way to attract potential clients. So one thing I’ve been doing is that I actually teach this series of workshop, photography workshop, through our local public library. And I’ve been doing it since so I initially started doing it as a way of just giving back, but then I realized that this is actually an amazing marketing strategy to grow my email list and then to get hot leads, and then turn them into my clients later.
Colie: Okay, so let’s take a step back. So you are teaching photography classes to like parents, right? To like just people in your community through the library, and this is leading to you getting hot leads for your photography business. So first, because I know everyone’s going to want to know, how did this class come to be?
Did you approach the library with the idea? Did they put out an open call? I mean, like, how did that happen?
Amy Dangerfield: Yeah, so I actually approached them. This is the library that we go to all the time with my kids. We go to story time almost like every single week. And then they have this printed flyer for all the events that’s happening. And so this is, the library for our whole city, right? And they have a couple of branches, I think, like four or something.
So they have a flyer for the information for events happening at all branches. And then I looked at it and I was like, Oh, there is a photography class offered. At one point, it was just very general, not for parents and all that. So I went and took that class and I was like, Oh, I can do this. And then, so I went and then just talked to the librarian who does story time.
And I’m like, Hey, I’m a photographer. And, if I want to teach a class at, you know, the library, how should I go about it? And then because the librarian already know me and I’ve done like, she’s seen me do day in the life for my own family. So, like, with a camera around and documenting and then so of course I pull up my portfolio and be like, Hey, this is what I want to teach.
Do you think there is the potential there? And then she’s like, Yes. Yeah. And then, so we just moved on to like actually working on the logistics and all that. So.
Colie: All right, so let’s talk about, so you approach them, they said yes, and then I think that the part that’s most unique about this is that you are not the one that is doing the marketing. So how does this help you market your class and therefore your business to your wider community?
Amy Dangerfield: Yeah, so think about it. I’m in Phoenix, Arizona area, like I’m in a satellite city, but this is, we’re talking about Metro Phoenix. We have a lot of people here. And then when I get on the public program, because you know how libraries work, they want people to go to their program. So there, it’s in their interest to make this program as successful as it can be.
And they have a, you know, very professional marketing team working for them to promote all the services. So they’re able to set up the Facebook events and then blast it out on their social media. And then, of course, they invite me as the co host, right? So I’ll get to, like, interact with potential people and clients and students.
And then they blast out on their, through their email list, which, you know, Right? And then, because I’m out there and it’s a public, you know, service, so there are a lot of people watching. And then, because I only offer this class, actually, at most, maybe twice a year. So it’s not, like, Always happening and there are always going to be people missing it or cannot make it.
And then that way they will actually get to contact me like, Hey, when is your next class and all that? And what’s cool about this? I didn’t realize initially what I realized later is that there are also other. People will want to hire teachers are watching these resources. So I was actually contracted through our child protective service because they offer career programs for kids, who are ready to step back into the society.
So I got to teach, I was hired, like I was paid to do it, to teach this kids photography, essentially bringing my online workshop offline. just because they found me and they missed my class. and then also because local events, we also have local newspaper, they always want to know what’s going on and share, you know, get traction.
And so I was interviewed and they had article about like, what to do this weekend in Phoenix. And all that helps with my backlinks, right? They link to my, website and I asked them to link when possible. And then just the exposure generally. out there.
Colie: I mean, guys, I hope I feel like we have to unpack this, but like all of that was so great. So first of all, You are not really having to market this opportunity, the library and by extension, the greater community are actually marketing it for you. Now, I know that someone is going to be wondering, okay, but like, how does this really help me grow my business besides exposure?
Because I would say exposure doesn’t usually pay your bills. However, this exposure sounds great, but there’s got to be a way that you are actually collecting leads. So Amy, besides the people that actually attend your course, how is it that you are collecting leads for your family photography business?
Amy Dangerfield: Yes. So I usually create a freebie. I purposefully like schedule my workshops at certain times. I’ve tweeted it over the years, so it’s not always at the same time they kind of expect, which, you know, they’re like, Oh, I gotta watch it. When is her next one? Right. And then, so first when people like miss it, I’m like, get on my email list.
So you’re in the Because I tell people I Share all my upcoming events and workshops and also promotions and deals through my email list. So I have a landing page for them to just you know, sign up for my email list. And then what I do is that I create a freebie. So for the fall workshops, I have this thing called Family Historian Survival Guide, essentially to teach people how to document your holiday season while staying present and survive, right?
Because moms, you know, I’m, I’m the one cooking the dinner, cooking the turkey, photographing me cooking the turkey and feed everybody to turkey, right? So it’s just insane. So I have this guide created. And then so I’m like, Hey, sorry, you missed it, or you’re not able to make it. But here’s the thing, go download it.
And then I get their email address and then pull them into my email list.
Colie: Okay. I think I want to go from like the very first time that you offered this class until now. Like, what’s the difference? Like, how many people attended the class the very first time that you offered it versus the very last time that you’ve offered it?
Amy Dangerfield: So actually the number like fluctuates. because it’s a public program. The first time when I offered it, I had, so I teach two classes in the series. And I think I got like 10 people for each. And then, because I started before the pandemic. And then, so during the pandemic, I was actually doing it online through Zoom.
And then the attendance actually went way up. But now we kind of went back down a little bit. So it’s kind of like it comes and goes. So it’s not like, Oh, I continue to grow like the numbers.
Colie: But no, knowing that, knowing that it fluctuates and knowing that you did go online during the pandemic, because I laugh every time someone comes on this podcast and they mention anything about 2020. I’m like, okay, wait, pre pandemic or post pandemic? Because that’s an important piece of information. So I’m sorry, continue.
So you were talking about it fluctuates over time.
Amy Dangerfield: Yeah, it fluctuate. And also because they have different branches. So I’ve also done different branches to see. And then it also like I’ve realized that with one branches just does not work because of demographics. And, um, with this other branch is like an open room and people just walking by. To the park nearby and they’re like, Oh, there’s a free workshop and they’ll just come in.
So, I think the most it’s still like a very small group because it’s a hands on class. So I actually cap it at 30. So I don’t let it go beyond that just for the experience because I
Colie: Well, I mean, It’s still fabulous. So, because I know that you’re a smart cookie, I’m going to assume that when you are putting out a link for people to join your mailing list or get the freebie that you are somehow tagging them as people that you acquired from the public library. So just tell me overall, how has this, what kind of, cause I know people are like, okay, Amy, this sounds great, but like who actually paid you?
So let’s get to the, attending a class and then becoming an actual like family photography client. What has that look like over, you know, the period of time that you’ve been offering this class?
Amy Dangerfield: Yeah. Because I do documentary, which is very different from lifestyle. So this is also why I want to do the class. Okay. Because as a documentary photographer yourself, like, you know, there was a lot of education needed before a family book, a documentary session. So instead of just go out and hope that people will buy my idea, I teach them what this is.
So I’m creating my clients, and I’m not Yeah,
Colie: continue. Exactly.
Amy Dangerfield: plan. So it’s not like, oh, you come take my class and you book me the exact same year. Right? My hope is that, okay, you take my class and get hooked about this genre and this approach and buy in the concept. And then, because I usually offer the class in the fall, right?
You go try it. Yeah, sure. You’re not going to do good, right? It takes a lot of practice. And then they’ll come back, try to learn more, which I will promote my, you know, like coaching or mentoring program, my one on one. And then they will still do it. And then they realize that, yeah, I can do it, but I’m not in the frame.
Colie: hmm.
Amy Dangerfield: And then they hire me. So that’s kind of like a longer term. And also, um, for me, other than just a regular client session, I do commercial work and also I teach, I do education. So a lot of times I need models. So, when I do documentary, like, model calls, it’s, I would much rather have someone who’s already, you know, like, No, like this genre instead of having me to like explain over and over and figure out that we’re not a good fit, right?
So this is a very good client base for me to easily pull a client like pull models out When so I’m actually gonna teach for an online retreat and then I needed a family to model So I’m not paid by the family directly, but I’m paid to teach And this is super easy for me to find clients. And then they, they’ve done it once as a model.
They’re hooked.
Colie: So for the ones, cause you’re right, I mean, this is really like a long term strategy. I also feel like, What you said, I didn’t even think about that before I invited you onto the podcast, but it is really educating people to become our clients because people get hooked. Everyone wants to take pictures of their kids.
Now everybody has an iPhone that actually probably takes some really amazing photos if you know what you’re doing, but you are educating them on how to take them themselves. And at some point everybody realizes, okay, I’ve got an entire phone on my phone. full of pictures of my kids, but I’m not in any of them.
That’s why the tagline on my photography website is actually, don’t you want to be in the photos too? Like that’s the literal headline on my website. But, do you have any idea over the last, I mean, it’s been five years, Amy, over the last five years that you’ve done this, how many people have actually hired you for a documentary family session?
Mm
Amy Dangerfield: so directly from my student to my session, I would say maybe So not like a ton,
Colie: I mean, but 20 is a good number. 20 is 20 is a good number. Because let me ask you a question. Those 20 people that have hired you, did they only hire you one time?
Amy Dangerfield: no,
Colie: No, so
Amy Dangerfield: they,
Colie: so you’re creating lifetime clients. Exactly. They become groupies. Hey, I mean, so definitely long term, even if you’ve only had 20 people that have paid you, I mean, think about the fact that all you had to do was share time with your community, which is something that you were already very invested in doing anyways.
And you’ve gotten 20 clients that paid you actual dollars and then they have continued to be your clients. You know, for future sessions. Now, do you know for a fact that any of those people have referred you to their friends?
Amy Dangerfield: Yes, and I’ve, I’ve also had friends like people who’ve referred their friends or brought their friends to my workshop. And then turn into so they don’t need to necessarily refer them from the photo session standpoint, but they refer someone to take the class and then they both became clients. Yeah, and also something I want to mention is that because.
Like, regular client session is only one part of my business. And this is also something I’m trying to help people understand, especially in a family photography business. A lot of people feel like this is a path. And you start and take photos of the family, and then that’s where your business is going to end.
But that’s not exactly it. So I do work for nonprofits as well. And then I do, I’ve done bigger commercial works where they essentially hired me to do a day in their life and then to build additional library for them for as their marketing, library. So, sometimes when I try to calculate the return of investment, essentially, so it’s not just.
How many people came to my class and I booked them, right? So it can be a little tricky, because there is not just a linear line, but I know because I’m tracking it, like the amount of information I put out there and people, I always tell people, where did you find me? And now more and more times it’s either just Google or they’re like, Oh, I found your class, but I was not able to make it.
And then. So they will share this information, right? And then I get hired to teach and then I get hired to do commercial work. So these are all the return of investment. So even though like I’ve kept, yeah, cause I’ve like, I’m actually, I’m, I’m a homeschool mom. I have four kids. So I purposefully
Colie: you’re busy.
Amy Dangerfield: yeah, so I actually made a conscious choice to Treat like put my business as a part time business.
Just make sure that I don’t overwork myself So I can’t take care of the other responsibilities and I chose homeschool So it’s not like, you know, so I want to put a lot of time for that So that’s also why like I cap how many clients I even take each year and then so I just want to say like Not necessarily just think like, oh, I’m creating my clients.
Yes, that’s one part of it, but that’s not all there is
Colie: no, I get it, Amy.
Amy Dangerfield: yeah, because a lot of times I can I need to teach right so I need content so then I go and do projects and then because of those projects that I was initially going to just teach about and land into bigger like commercial or a nonprofit
Colie: Nice. I mean, this begs the question though, because I mean, I think, you know, I homeschooled last year. And, you know, Chloe went to a co op that was hosted by the district, but we have like very active homeschool community here in Boulder. I mean, and the greater Boulder area, have you ever tried to create a class and specifically offer it to the homeschool community?
Or do a lot of the homeschool community comes to the library? I mean, I’m sorry. That’s just I’m fascinated now.
Amy Dangerfield: yeah, I am. I’m actually in the process of, creating something more specifically for the homeschool, community. One is just, most of the time when I work with family. And that’s what I’m most comfortable with. But then when a kid is learning, that’s what I’ve learned as well through teaching experience, right?
I got to teach some teenagers. Their focus is very different. They’re not out there trying to document kids. So, I’m trying to find, how should I approach that? And because my oldest is still so little, like she’s old enough, she wants to learn photography. But she’s also, like, young. So I’m actually pitched to the library.
Next year I’m gonna use them as a trial run. I’m gonna offer a camp over there for, like, just teenagers. And then a group of, essentially, like, 3rd to 5th grader. And then 6th to 8th, kind of, like. the two chunks and then like chunk them up. And offer the class over there and see how it goes. And then we’ll go from there.
Colie: I mean, and you’re not the only one that’s sparking this idea. I recently interviewed Rebecca Farrin for the podcast. I’m not sure when this airs, if that episode will already be out, but Rebecca also teaches a camp for kids to learn how to take photos. And You know, I don’t think that her goal in doing it is to create an atmosphere of clients.
It is more of a, she enjoys teaching photography and she just kind of wants to spread that joy, but it is like another aspect of teaching and giving back. And like, this whole idea of making people more aware that, like, in our case, documentary photography is something that everyday people can do just with their iPhones.
Amy Dangerfield: Yeah, totally, totally. And also I want to point out is that especially if you are teaching like classes to kids, I always invite their parents to come. So, like, I, of course, I word it as, you know, it is the safety situation, right? I’m like, Hey, just come hang out, chill with us. But at the same time, the parents are learning and listening and say, Oh, this is cool.
So.
Colie: So let’s talk about systems. I mean, you know, you’re one of my students from the CRM blueprint and I can’t help but ask you about the systems inside of your business, which honestly is a lot more than I thought it was. I thought I was just going to ask you about, like, your photography work, but, um. how are you using systems in your business for like all of the different facets of what you have?
So you have your education, you have your commercial, you have your non profit, and you have your family photography. So just tell me about the systems in your business and how they help you balance, honestly, homeschooling and being a family photographer.
Amy Dangerfield: Yeah, Ultimation. Ultimation. Like, that’s the biggest thing. Like, I, time. I just don’t have time to sit there and do the repeated stuff. When I, when I started, I, like, I knew I needed to have a workflow. But I’m also not the kind of person would just go out and just, you know, because everybody uses a CRM I’m, I’m going to invest a lot in there like money wise, so I can understand like, you know, the hesitation there, because I was there.
But I definitely got to a point I’m like, I just can’t, like, I don’t have time, I don’t have enough time if the machine can do it for me. I’ll let the machine do it. So I’m not saying like totally taking me out of it. But it’s more that like, you know, when an inquiry comes, and they immediately get a response like, Hey, I got your inquiry.
And then I’ll be chatting with you in 24 hours and then, or like 48 hour depends, right? And then, depending on where the inquiry comes from, I have different forms embedded on different pages. So I know where they’re coming from and then so they get different response. Um, and then so, like, for clients, I actually.
I’ve written a blog post about what is documentary? What is the day in the life? So when the inquiry comes in I sent that blog post over one it drives traffic to my website, which is amazing Yeah, and then they get to kind of know what they’re getting into because sometimes people know they think they know what they want, but they don’t, right?
So walking them through the entire process and another piece of education, and then, you know, while they’re waiting, and then I can take my time as well to kind of decide, okay, how should I go about this lead? And then. When I book, no matter what, like, I get on a phone call with them. I chat with my potential client and then talk it out.
Because there is power in hearing the voice. And when you’re just telling people through words like online, when they read it, they’re like, Oh, that sounds good. But when you get to really tell them, they can feel like how excited you are and what your passion is and why you’re doing what you’re doing.
And then, so I can use the CRM. You know, to send over a scheduler and that’s also very easy. You know, like I don’t have to sit down and then look at my schedule like on the spot. I can just send over the schedule and then we’ll just go from there. And of course, all the booking process for family sessions and for education stuff.
I like for just buying like online classes. It’s I don’t have them sign individual contracts, but for mentoring programs. Like one on one year long mentoring programs, I do have them sign a contract. So that also can be done through the CRM and all that. So it’s really helping me a lot to not having to like, try to remember everything in my brain.
Cause I just can’t. I have too much going on, so I need a system.
Colie: Yeah, I mean, and you mentioned the automated lead response, and I think, you know, like that is my favorite part of having a CRM because the faster you respond to someone, the more likely they are to hire you. And so just putting that email out is so important to keeping people engaged until you can actually contact them.
And the fact that you’re sending out a blog post telling them what documentary family photography is, I’m so proud of you. Mine that goes out as an automated lead response is These are five things that we can do during your documentary family photography session, because I think a lot of people look at my work and I’m sure that this happens for you.
They look at the things that some of my clients are doing in a day in the life and they’re like, Oh, I mean, I want one of those sessions, but I have no idea what we would do during the day. And while I tell them the most mundane moments inside of your house are probably going to be your favorite images, people get excited.
by like the activities. Do you find that to be true?
Amy Dangerfield: Yes, yes, for sure. And also like in my blog post, I actually embed a slideshow. So they get to see not just a few images, they get to see like exactly all the little Monday moments that I catch as well. So yeah, and people are so excited. They’re like, Oh, this is so cool. I want to do this. And then I’m actually just talking to a mom and so she has.
Two older kids and one younger kids and we’re going to do a family session for them. And she’s like, Oh yeah, my boy has just started this business and doing this thing. Can you like tag along and maybe like document that? Cause I never get to see that. And I’m like, of course. Like, so yeah, people are really excited.
Like with all the potentials, like, Oh yeah. Now when I think about it, like, Oh, can we do this? Can we do that? Can we, so yeah. It’s fun.
Colie: did your systems look like before you either took my course or you had Dubsado? Did you have Dubsado before you took my course?
Amy Dangerfield: No,
Colie: is Dubsado the first CRM that you’ve used? Okay.
Amy Dangerfield: Yes. So, um.
Colie: CRM before?
Amy Dangerfield: No, I was not. I, I have my own setup just because one, I am very, I’m very techie. I, I actually have a master’s degree in electrical engineering. So, um, I’m just like very hands on. I like to figure things out. So initially I thought like, you know, it would, wouldn’t be cool like to design my own website.
I did coding for my own website and stuff just because I thought it was fun. I had all the workflow. So I know like I have all the templates saved and I have emails, you know, like all that stuff. So essentially, I just used different like a lot of Dropbox and Google Drive and all that stuff. And then, I know where to pull things.
So once the inquiry comes in, I have a workflow to go out. but it’s that initial contact that’s missing. It takes me to actually get to it and then constantly checking my email, trying to figure out like, oh, did I get a new email? So that’s why I’m like, okay, I gotta just let go of my, like, not my control, but just let it go.
It’s okay. Like, I, I know how to do it, but I don’t have to do it myself. So,
Colie: I feel like a lot of people overlook the value of just being able to go to one place, because you’re right. I mean, I could put together, you know, systems that used multiple pieces of tools and, you know, it, it might even be. It might even be better in some aspects than using one CRM, but the value of like using a CRM, whether it’s Dubsado or HoneyBook or something else, is that all of those client interactions and all of that client data is in that one spot.
So that if you are curious, if a client answered you or if they filled out their client questionnaire, or if they paid the second invoice or Any of those things, you can just go to your CRM and look versus, you know, looking in PayPal or Stripe or looking in your Gmail or looking in all of these various places that just waste a lot of time.
And Amy, you don’t have a lot of time to waste.
Amy Dangerfield: Yep, and also like what’s really cool about a CRM. I think is that You get to track them individually. If you use all different places, then there’s no way for you to see that, like, path where they’ve gone. Like, and it’s all scattered. But if it’s in a CRM, you get to see all the different texts. Like, okay, they’ve gone on this path for a little bit, and then they turn into that.
Because I also have had students, so it’s kind of fun, like, people came to my class, booked a session, and decided to start their own photography business. And then. They come
Colie: I mean, I’m not surprised by that at all.
Amy Dangerfield: and try to learn the business side of things. So it’s like without a CRM with everything together, there’s no way like you can see the path like it’s just all over the place.
Colie: And I’m all for getting these baby, baby photographers. I don’t mean that they photograph babies, guys. I mean that they are, you know, in the infancy of their business. There is nothing more that I love to hear than getting these people into CRMs as quickly as possible, because, you know, they’re so readily available now.
I don’t think anybody should have to suffer like I did in like the first. I think it was four or five years of my business. I didn’t have a CRM like, Oh, okay. Three years. I opened in 2012 and I got my first CRM in 2015. It literally makes me cry to think about all the time that I wasted constantly checking my emails and constantly sending all the emails from scratch.
Back in those first three years of business. I mean, if I could get all of that time back, Amy, what would I do with it? I mean, Amy, I feel like this conversation has been amazing and I do want to leave our listening audience with just a few tips.
So if you had to give advice to someone that’s like, okay, this sounds cool. I want to see if I can do it in my area. What advice would you give someone in order to get this started?
Amy Dangerfield: Just go out there and network. Like, talk to people. Don’t be afraid to pitch your idea. Cause the worst would be just, no. It’s, it’s not really you. A lot of times there are so many factors, you know, going into it, but just go out and see what, you know, opportunities are out there. There are a lot. You can teach through the library.
I’ve taught through so many different channels, and I’m sure there’s something you can find. Find a bigger group. That’s the thing. Like, you want to, you know, Leverage on their ability to market for you, of course. So just go to the library and talk to the librarian.
Colie: Every time someone’s talking and they say something, I’m like, Oh, that’s going to be the title of this episode. So you just said something that sparked, I now know what the title of this episode is going to be. Leverage someone else’s audience for your marketing. Yes. I’m pretty sure. Amy, this has been absolutely amazing.
If people want to find out more about you, your year long mentorship and other educational opportunities that you have, where can they find you on the internet?
Amy Dangerfield: So you can go to my website. It’s amydangerfield. com and I have a learning hub. So you can find All the learning resources out there and or hire me for a documentary session as well. And I am on Instagram. So amydangerfieldphotography on Instagram. That’s where you can find me.
Colie: All right, guys, I truly hope that listening to this episode that you got as excited about this concept of teaching photography through your local community and library, potentially, as I did when she first mentioned it. That’s it for this episode. See you next time.